tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post3811421154356944938..comments2023-03-26T00:35:36.302-07:00Comments on The Vicious Cycle of Cycles: Barren Bitches and Bare Beauties (If you ask me)Ehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15258948791389030254noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-3533342094681232732007-06-08T08:08:00.000-07:002007-06-08T08:08:00.000-07:00RYC: I haven't listened to Whiskeytown but I think...RYC: I haven't listened to Whiskeytown but I think I'll have to! I'm literally spinning in excitement now!Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15114191808501237357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-46676240058753204932007-06-05T23:11:00.000-07:002007-06-05T23:11:00.000-07:00Erin, I'm so sorry to hear about the news your doc...Erin, I'm so sorry to hear about the news your doctor told you. Crappy news in addition to complete rambling from your RE...double UGHs. Millie summed it up best with her comment about the donor route- a third of the baby will be yours, not just the donor and your husband. Anyways, thinking of you. Big Hugs :)Amy Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12842619390377450284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-23638295220035870712007-06-05T22:26:00.000-07:002007-06-05T22:26:00.000-07:00Welcome, home. I'm another Bay Area high fsher so ...Welcome, home. I'm another Bay Area high fsher so I feel remiss in my Welcome Wagon duties.<BR/><BR/>There are quite a few local REs to consider (and quite a few NOT to consider) if you're thinking of working with someone else.<BR/><BR/>I think most of us high fshers/poor responders go down a much steeper slope like you mentionned. We just don't necessarily have the same options.<BR/><BR/>I gotta say I found it strange to consider using Donor Eggs when it was brought up in my very first consult because I WAS a donor years ago. It's not nearly so strange now. In fact, lots of folks who conceive with donor eggs think of the process in thirds: the man contributes half the genetic material, the donor the other half and the recipient does most of the work (and, in fact, influences which genes will turn on or not).<BR/><BR/>Best of luck to you.milliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09710325487325258355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-90847111939937695702007-06-05T21:49:00.000-07:002007-06-05T21:49:00.000-07:00Hi, Erin. I was going to say you made me laugh wi...Hi, Erin. I was going to say you made me laugh with "Hanging out with Daisy." But others beat me to it.<BR/><BR/>So, this is your other passage that stuck with me: "I’ve become more in touch with my body, rather than alienated from it."<BR/><BR/>What a wonderful side-effect from a crappy situation!<BR/><BR/>Hope things go well on your next cycle.<BR/>LoriLori Lavender Luzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15394441222262940632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-10915404829481682412007-06-05T19:30:00.000-07:002007-06-05T19:30:00.000-07:00First--can you tell how you got your tracker? All ...First--can you tell how you got your tracker? All the ones I've found are so busy, but I like the idea of tracking our progress...<BR/><BR/>Second, 6 embryos is ridiculous. And insensitive and dismissive.<BR/><BR/>Argh. <BR/><BR/>I'm sure you've already been over this in your mind, but if you had any interest in looking for a second opinion or an RE recommendation in SF, I'd be happy to ask my SIL (the surgeon in SF--shes pretty well connected and there's no one I would trust more). <BR/><BR/>Anyhow, I'm sure you've already done a ton of research and asking around, so feel free to ignore the unsolicited offer! :-)Mama Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828936673145226848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-15977766690454334172007-06-05T18:31:00.000-07:002007-06-05T18:31:00.000-07:00Whoa! What a consult. I love your answer to the ...Whoa! What a consult. <BR/><BR/>I love your answer to the second question. I do find myself chasing stories of how *what I'm doing right now* worked for so-and-so, as if that's going to make a difference to me. <BR/><BR/>I also laughed at "Hanging Out With Daisy".<BR/><BR/>BeaBeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11877513815828460269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-42642050825915631112007-06-05T18:30:00.000-07:002007-06-05T18:30:00.000-07:00Eeeew to the RE. He sounds a bit like my old OB w...Eeeew to the RE. He sounds a bit like my old OB who gave us many wonderful catchphrases that we still use today when we need a good laugh...<BR/><BR/>I think the free-fall description captures it. And how we keep moving to consider new things. And I think sometimes it's self-preservation as we still strive to be a parent. And sometimes it's simply because you get past the knee-jerk reaction and read more and consider the possibility. At least, I'm giving myself that excuse.<BR/><BR/>Wishing you a good trip!Lollipop Goldsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01020874415819057995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-74651530294888261602007-06-05T18:22:00.000-07:002007-06-05T18:22:00.000-07:00WOW to great thoughts! You know when you first be...WOW to great thoughts! You know when you first begin the journey you have goals and also things on your "I will never do" list. One by one different things are checked off the list as failure. You are left with rethinking. <BR/><BR/>You made me think!Sunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14570018200281339937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-56999117139594415962007-06-05T17:38:00.000-07:002007-06-05T17:38:00.000-07:00I completely agree with you about the treatments b...I completely agree with you about the treatments being free-fall. My very first IVF was a converted timed intercourse with injectibles. I'm still a little pissed that my RE never mentioned that as a possibility, because suddenly I had to make this important decision in a matter of two days.<BR/><BR/>The donor egg has come up for me too. Like Orenstein, it was something I would have never considered, and was talking to my husband about how I wouldn't consider it, and suddenly, I was considering it!Samanthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02799401502134619497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-39673195331747269492007-06-05T13:08:00.000-07:002007-06-05T13:08:00.000-07:00What a good post. What a lot of things you have to...What a good post. What a lot of things you have to think about.<BR/><BR/>It can't be easy to be given news like that. I think your doctor sounds like an idiot. I'm sorry you're having to even think about this stuff right on the back of your IVF.<BR/><BR/>It's very early yet. Please try not to worry about what might and might not be until at least the next IVF cycle.<BR/><BR/>I know what you mean by one treatment leading to another etc. I'd never have thought I'd have been in this position, just wouldn't have believed I'd be this driven (or desperate) but here I am. I think the donor egg issue may be like this. Let it filter through your mind but you'll only know how you feel if/when you actually get there, hopefully that'll never happen. If it does you'll deal with it. I know you will.<BR/><BR/>I'm still sorry you're having to deal with all this,Carriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15454167446758199344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-49990142555209446862007-06-05T11:41:00.000-07:002007-06-05T11:41:00.000-07:00Even though you are committed to your RE for anoth...Even though you are committed to your RE for another cycle, can you go somewhere else for a second opinion? He sounds bizarre and it might help to get another RE's perspective. <BR/><BR/>Good luck. You are in a really tough position right now!!LIW (Lady In Waiting)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06199047053421154823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-65489410617153032612007-06-05T08:17:00.000-07:002007-06-05T08:17:00.000-07:00Hi E - What a great post. I hope writing about a...Hi E - What a great post. I hope writing about all of this helped you a bit. Your RE sounds like a real piece of work. And 6 embryos sounds completely irresponsible.<BR/><BR/>My IF shrink went through 1 failed IVF and then used donor eggs to conceive her son on her next round of IVF. She also has a 2nd miracle baby (all it takes is one good egg which could be in there somewhere, right?). Regarding her donor egg child, she said to me that once the embryo was put into her body, it became her baby - now matter what egg was used. <BR/><BR/>I'm a stats person and when you look at the IVF success stats using donor eggs, it is a pretty convincing argument. <BR/><BR/>Also, a little ass-vice, if you haven't done so already, please have your RE do a progesterone test and an immunity work-up on you so you can mitigate any potential issues post-transfer.<BR/><BR/>Thinking of you, Ms. PlannerMs. Plannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01409133656377265127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-7340347676104545392007-06-05T07:59:00.000-07:002007-06-05T07:59:00.000-07:00Wow, these are very timely questions considering y...Wow, these are very timely questions considering your latest conversation with the RE. I like your analogy of free falls from one step to another. So often, IF diagnosis and treatment is like a series of carpets being pulled out from beneath you. It's hard to prepare for that.Ellen K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13287056477705010350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-38210665726758559932007-06-05T07:57:00.000-07:002007-06-05T07:57:00.000-07:006 embies! Holy cow....Ohhh lovely vaca time! Enjoy...6 embies! Holy cow....<BR/>Ohhh lovely vaca time! Enjoy it!JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18027548058304720360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-66318697125495175552007-06-05T06:54:00.000-07:002007-06-05T06:54:00.000-07:00Ugh, what an asshat. I am sorry you don't have a m...Ugh, what an asshat. I am sorry you don't have a more sympathetic (and less creepy) doctor. A vacation sounds perfect.Alexahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17982606251022617322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-7468165790789423622007-06-05T06:50:00.000-07:002007-06-05T06:50:00.000-07:00That RE sounds like a real piece of work. Six emb...That RE sounds like a real piece of work. Six embryos sounds like complete lunacy to me! And there is no way I'd consider it appropriate for him to tell me his rude and insensitive comments regarding the naked protesters. Nice to see that he has a real appreciation for the female body (where he makes his living) -- not.<BR/><BR/>I have some pretty crappy eggs. We've known this from the get-go. We've done 3 IVFs (well, in the process of #3 right now) and have tried a different protocol each time. On the 2nd one, I did Microdose Lupron flare too. The good news is that with each protocol, we got more and more eggs (3 the first time, 4 the second time, 6 this time).<BR/><BR/>If you want to talk more about this, you can email me at leah_conway@yahoo.com.<BR/><BR/>In the meantime, enjoy your upcoming vacation!!Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11037485291342703216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1049084733820679890.post-3744234148963069902007-06-05T06:23:00.000-07:002007-06-05T06:23:00.000-07:00I'm here for the tour but I am going to deviate fr...I'm here for the tour but I am going to deviate from book tour protocol and talk about yout RE. Egg art? How creepy. Personal stories about his life? Rather inappropriate, especially at a follow-up meeting to a failed cycle. Complaining about "ugly" older women. So out of line. I guess you are stuck with him in that you have already paid for your next cycle but what an annoying thing to add to the regular IF stress.Staciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04505622963819102492noreply@blogger.com